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Samsung 970 Pro Vs 980 Pro

[SOLVED] Bought Samsung 980 PRO SSD to supersede 970 EVO Plus as C Drive, Right Conclusion?

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ganymede-
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Greetings Everyone,

I recently purchased a Samsung 980 EVO PCIe 4.0 NVMe Grand.2 SSD 1TB. I had intended to clone my current C drive which is a Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 500GB that is virtually completely full.

The new Samsung 980 PRO can deliver a maximum read speed of upward to 7,000 MB/southward.

My older Samsung 970 EVO tin deliver sequential read and write operation levels of up to iii,500MB s and 3,300MB s.

Then, equally I sympathize information technology, the 980 EVO can evangelize almost twice the read speed of my 970 EVO Plus.

However, I was told by someone on this forum that I should use the new 980 EVO (Generation four) NVMe SSD as NOT my new C drive as I had intended, but instead to use as a data storage bulldoze only.

Apparently, I was not really going to encounter that much of an improvement between the two Samsung drives with regards to speed. Just how is that possible if the read speed on the 980 One thousand.ii SSD is almost double the read speed of the 970?

I have already cloned my operating arrangement to the new 980 G.2 SSD. So far it seems okay just I probably will know for certain for a couple days of using the system.

Now, I still accept the 970 EVO Plus with the operating system on it. I have Not wiped information technology clean still in case there is a strong instance for continuing to use the 970 EVO equally my C bulldoze. If the 970 is near completely filled with applications and other things, and I don't see how I would exist able to bring the corporeality of space existence used down,

would non a M.two SSD almost filled to capacity run slower than a new 980 PRO M.ii SSD that has 500GB of costless infinite on information technology?

Ultimately, being at a crossroads here,

I am looking for feedback on whether or not information technology makes more sense to use the 970 or 980 equally my C drive. I cannot say for sure that applications will work faster or launch more quickly on the new 980, merely information technology does seem to load the operating system faster than the 970, but not by a huge degree yet it was noticeable.

What do you lot call up is the best choice and why? Thank you in advance for your help.

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What motherboard?
How "full" is the 970?
Thank y'all for the videos. Based on the videos that you included on the performance of SSD generations 3 and four, it appears there is little difference.

Seriously, I am wondering if I should just return my Samsung 980 PRO Generation 4 M.ii SSD for a Samsung 980 (not PRO) Generation 3 M.2 SSD that costs $50.00 less on Amazon?

Clearly, I will not discover a difference in performance, so why not relieve myself the $50.00, right?

My motherboard is an ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming Motherboard with an Intel i9-9900K @ 3.6GHz Base (Overclock 4.8GHz). Though I am not what you would consider a big gamer, I just relish a fast figurer.

When I say the Samsung 970 SSD is full, I mean that it has about 30GB of free space on a 500GB SSD.

I know that flash memory works differently than HDD memory.

What I do not know is whether having only a modest amount of costless space on the operating system SSD has whatever negative impacts on performance like it would on an HDD?

And so should stick to using my older Samsung 970 SSD as my C bulldoze? It depends on whether the SSD which is near total capacity will affect performance? If it does NOT impact performance then I think I would switch dorsum to the Samsung 970 every bit my C drive, so return the 980 Pro and buy the 980 (non Pro) as a information storage bulldoze primarily. I could also move my games to the Samsung 980 because currently, they are on an HDD.

Please let me know what you think. Thank you again.

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30GB complimentary on a 500GB drive impacts lifespan also every bit performance.

You really don't want to go over nigh 400GB actual used space.

Yes, continue with the 970 as the C drive.
But DO gratuitous up some space on it.

And it appears your Z390-E motherboard does not support PCIe iv.0 for the 980 Pro.
So it runs but the same speed equally the 970, no affair what is on it.

ganymede-
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Well, thanks, for checking whether my MB supports the Generation four SSD. Knowing that my MB does not back up Generation 4 certainly makes all my decisions that much easier.

I will reinstall the 970 SSD as my C drive, and and then format the 980 SSD then return information technology for a generation iii SSD.

Thanks again for your aid!

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I had a similar conundrum to you terminal time. Despite having a PCI-e iii.0 motherboard (Maximus Hero XI) I still went for the 980 Pro, partly to have a free speed heave in one case I upgrade to a PCI-e 4.0 lath. That, and the potential PCI-e four.0 speeds attainable could max out my PCI-e 3 interface, whereas a 970 Evo Plus in comparative synthetic benchmarks ran slightly slower when both were tested on a PCI-eastward three board. (https://ssdsphere.com/samsung-980-pro-vs-samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd-1tb/)

Perhaps the revised 970 Evo Plus with the Elpis controller could come up even closer to 980 Pro speeds since the hardware revision, as there's at present nigh nothing between the two SKUs. I happily employ both models in machines at home and work as unmarried disks and in RAID sets.

If your primary concern is capacity, the 970 Evo Plus was revised to employ the same Elpis controller every bit the 980 Pro and shares many of its attributes for a lower price indicate. Reviews say it runs a fiddling warm simply shouldn't be an upshot for almost everybody (unless you run your PC in a vacuum). Chillblast recommended alternatives similar the Seagate Firecuda 510 (PCI-eastward v3) if you want comparable storage and operation. I've not used them myself but they should know what they're talking nearly.

Temps on my 980 Pro (kicking drive) are 38 celcius, my 970 Evo is at 42, and that's mainly due to the 980 Pro's slot e'er being about 3 celcius cooler than the 970'southward slot due to its slot having better airflow.

Sidenote, I would personally avoid Sabrent SSDs as they use QLC once the SLC is exhausted, an important caveat if y'all need sustained sequential write performance. (Samsungs use their V-NAND TLC).

A Th review graph from 2020 speaks volumes:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sabrent-rocket-q4-m2-nvme-ssd-review/2

Conduct in heed though this is later on a fair period of intensive writes and a pretty extreme test, only it does highlight how reliable the Samsungs are in terms of performance.

Every bit the TomsHardware examination was actually quite relevant to some of my workloads (dealing with uncompressed media) the 980 Pro was a better fit in terms of predictable operation over extended periods. Only the 970 Evo Plus would too be an excellent choice.

Ars did a useful review of the 980 vs 970 Pro vs 970 Evo Plus last year which may help inform future choices besides, https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/new-samsung-980-ssd-improves-on-970-evo-evo-plus-performance/ for that. If what yous're interested in most is read performance, the 970 gens actually performed very well indeed.

I guess despite all this, buy what makes you happy if coin in your pocket is a main concern, only don't buy a BX500 ;)

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Sidenote, I would personally avert Sabrent SSDs equally they use QLC once the SLC is wearied
They accept QLC model but as well have model with 176 layer Micron TLC with Phison E18 controller, which is actually faster than Samsung 980 PRO.

In my opinion, Samsung 980 PRO is the first generation of PCIE4 drives (analogous to 950 PRO/EVO in PCIE3 era)..
The second gen is drives using Phison E18 controller that are much faster simply not saturating the PCIE4 speed yet (reminds me of 960 PRO/EVO of PCIE3 era) Wouldn't be surprised Samsung makes 990 PRO (980 PRO plus?) to lucifer race the E18 drives.
I fully expect we will see even faster drives that utilize the full PCIE4X4 speed some time later. Possibly PCIE5 kicks in before that happens.. Who knows

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